Thanks everyone,

I got lucky and found a personal lease return locally last night that had just been listed- it's sitting in my garage right now. It was a bit more money but it only had 28,000 miles. It is a 2020 but is almost identical to my 2013.

My oldest is 19- she has spina bifida and uses a wheelchair full time. The van is nice because she can get in and out of it independently. The first Grand Caravan went 250k before my wife met up with a pipe bollard in a parking lot. The 2013 has 220k. It is still going strong and will be a great car for my kids.

good luck -jim